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Yes, the lines of maxiPad jokes now have wings. Now that we have that out of the way...

First off, to all of my tech focused friends who are sitting here scratching their heads about the Apple iPad, and it's total lack of any new technology, i'd just like to remind everyone of the initial iPod review by /. chief CmdrTaco: No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

Yes, there is no ground breaking technology in the Apple iPad. That's by design. The magic of all Apple releases is that they aren't about the technology. I didn't have to scrape fifteen stickers off my laptop telling me about the graphics card, the sound card, and the motherboard chipset. Again, design.

The core market for Apple's technology isn't geeks. Microsoft, Google, et al, are all selling to geeks. That's why these companies are driven by engineers and marketing. Apple is controlled by a designer. And it freaking shows. Form follows function. Compare and contrast the iPad and the HP version of the same kit released just a couple of weeks beforehand. It's night and day. HP's is designed for geeks. It is covered in buttons, it multi-tasks, it's got sharp plasticy corners, and looks like it was put together by a ten year old.

Apple doesn't build for geeks. Never has, and it never will. If you are looking at the iPad and wondering "Why?" then you aren't Apple's target market. I will be purchasing an iPad as soon as it's available, because I'm developing for it. These bloody things are going to be everywhere.
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domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 28th, 2010 09:52 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes, the general populace is stupid, if you define stupid as not caring how things work, as long as they do work. And yes, they like things that are easy and shiny. Easy means that said item doesn't make them feel stupid, and shiny means said object plays to their need to appear successful.

It's like you've read my design books =)
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domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 28th, 2010 11:05 am (UTC) (Link)
Unless I miss my guess, you, like I, spent your youth pulling things apart figuring out how they worked.

My interest in design is based in the realisation that what I build actually has to have value to someone other than me sitting here going "but it's shiny!"

That said, I'm still having massive fights with myself about whether "it's shiny!" is sufficient justification to build something...
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domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 28th, 2010 11:10 am (UTC) (Link)
For buying, shyeah. I own a house full of shiny apple branded iDoodads. I'm hanging out for the day they release iGirlfriend.
From: alasharia_la Date: January 29th, 2010 01:04 am (UTC) (Link)
You're not waiting for their gaming console, the iPlay?


('twas a running joke in a marketting and management course I did. that Apple will bring out a gaming console, and call it the iPlay, since they tend to name things similarly)
domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 29th, 2010 01:24 am (UTC) (Link)
The funniest thing here is that this is Apple's gaming platform...
strangedave From: strangedave Date: January 28th, 2010 01:21 pm (UTC) (Link)

mini SIM

while I think the lack of multi-tasking is pretty stupid, I think the SIM card is just Apple doing its typical Apple thing and trying to drive adoption of standards ahead of the industry (ie DisplayPort) - just kind of pointlessly so in this case. Its not proprietary, its just that Apple will be at the cutting edge of adoption. T-Mobile in the US announced they would be introducing them in January, for example.
strangedave From: strangedave Date: January 28th, 2010 01:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wasn't it just a few weeks ago you were telling me that web apps were the future, and you couldn't be bothered learning the iPhone SDK because it had no future, or something like that?

If you do get seriously into iPad native development, I thoroughly recommend the book Cocoa Design Patterns. It goes through Cocoa basic design ideas, including the thinking behind why that pattern was chosen etc, and then gives you a few examples from the API. It is very much 'here is the thinking behind the APIs' instead of just a big list of API calls like many dev books.

I'm pretty much planning to focus on iPhone and iPad development as much as I can in the near future.
domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 28th, 2010 07:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
Heh, I said nothing of doing native development =)

I will be getting this bloody thing so I can learn the ins and outs of doing webapp development for it. There are a bunch of extensions in it's WebKit for handling things like multi-touch gestures, geolocation, et al, as well as webkit and ipod/iphone/ipad specific css.

I did spend some time learning cocoa back when i got my first mac, but try as I might I keep winding up thinking in terms of server based communication environments.
jujulilianan From: jujulilianan Date: January 28th, 2010 01:53 pm (UTC) (Link)

I know I'm not a computer geek.. my only computer is going on 6 years old, and does everything I care for it to do... but I'm also not the target market. This whole thing seems a bit pissweak. it's not even a proper computer. you have to install your software from the itunes app store.

I'd have a netbook over this any day. at least a netbook has a keyboard you can type on if you want to. without that, it's just a dedicated mobile browser & media player. way too specialised for my lifestyle and my internet usage needs.
domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 28th, 2010 07:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yup, it's a dedicated web browser, no two ways about it.
jujulilianan From: jujulilianan Date: January 29th, 2010 03:15 am (UTC) (Link)
see.. for me, the small size of the iphone and the fact that it's a phone makes it portable and multiple-ly useful enough, that the poopy interface is a trade off that's maybe worth making.

when the device gets to the size of a real computer, then it's going to take me a lot of convincing that I don't need a real keyboard somewhere on it.. writing this post on an ipad for instance would e pretty annoying...

and the whole itunes app store is pretty crappy too.. a netbook running windows can run pretty much any app ever written for windows PCs. plenty of freeware, plenty of random things. all good. and to release a program for a netbook, you can download visual studio for free, and away you go.

The minute you have a big centralised arbiter of "taste" (well usefulness) like apple defining what you can run on your computer or not, then it really becomes a lot less of something you have any control over. I'd consider the whole app store thing a LOT less of a problem if they were just an installation and payment mechanism, rather than a big random authority that makes rules over what apps live or die with no reporting or accountability to anyone except steve jobbs.

I guess I see the ipad as something for old people, more than anything else. (That, and yuppie hipsters with more money than sense who want another specific computer just for surfing the web as a content consumer.)
domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 29th, 2010 03:23 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes, the iPad is a web browser without the underlying computer being visible.

It amuses me that it took Steve Jobs to finally make Linux on the desktop happen. Oh, and fulfill Netscape's operating systems as nothing but a bunch of device drivers.

If you think a web browser is only for old people, and content consumers, I have but one question for you. What is FaceBook?
jujulilianan From: jujulilianan Date: January 29th, 2010 07:57 am (UTC) (Link)
oh dear... just found out it's a web browser with no Flash support. hahaha. yes flash is crap anyway, and yes it's going to die sometime, but that's going to be an awfully frustrating web experience for a lot of ipad users until it does.


For a start, I don't think facebook would be very usable on an ipad. too much typing required if you're really going to interact... and typing on an iphone is pretty damn grim. maybe ipad will be OK for twitter, but if there's no keyboard (and no camera!) it's mostly a passive consuming device, and not even a good skype platform.

domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 29th, 2010 01:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
we'll see =)
jujulilianan From: jujulilianan Date: January 30th, 2010 04:05 am (UTC) (Link)
well, when you buy one, I'll be very interested to read the review. especially after a week or 2 of using at for surfing the web.

don't get me wrong, it looks like a cool thing to play with. I just wonder how the particular set of limitations will stack up.
:-)
domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 30th, 2010 05:45 am (UTC) (Link)
I'll happily post my reflections on it after a month of ownership =)
alasharia_la From: alasharia_la Date: January 29th, 2010 01:11 am (UTC) (Link)
You know, I look at it from the poi9nt of view that as far as hardware and software development go, Apple has combined the two flawlessly. Then, they always do. Apple designs its software and hardware concuurently, and any changes to one need to be reflected by changes made in the other.
Most of the hard core Mac users I know (music and visual artists, mostly) will buy it as opposed to any other similar doodad, simply because it will fit more cleanly with their already existing technology.
It is, simply, a way to make sure that Apple continues to get its users to keep buying Apple products - something M$ should look at.
domesticmouse From: domesticmouse Date: January 29th, 2010 01:30 am (UTC) (Link)
Microsoft and Google can't replicate the Apple magic for a simple reason. Google and MS are both anti-design. For all his personality issues, BillG was actually a designer at heart, not your traditional graphic designer, but a system designer, like Steve is.

Short Apple the day Steve retires.
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